R1: John is badass and his QuickDraw and accuracy is amazing. After the conclusion of the Main Story, the player character will shift from Arthur Morgan to John Marston. 695. I still like John more because of nostalgia and I've spent more time with him. Arthur being such a great character is ultimately what leads to Johns death, Johns love for Arthur makes him disregard Abigails pleas to not hunt Micah and sets up the events for the first game, this shouldn't be a contest as it was technically intended. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. It’s great, Arthur is written to be a better character due to the fact the revenge we take on Micah is the sole reason Ross finds John and his family, John was basically off the radar till he hunted Micah in revenge for Arthur and Ross found out he was still in the territory. A cheat code to swap to him would have been awesome at the very least. ... Arthur Morgan, on the other hand, is a different story. 1 1. Who walks away with more money? If there's a way to do it, it's a glitch that has yet to be discovered. I don't want to sound like a "know it all" but I did have a bit of a feeling that we would be playing John Marston again, I just expected the epilogue to be closer in time to the events of RDR1.  Wonder why they took that long if they already found John's ranch in 1907. Powered by Invision Community. Older John isn't dumb, he's too trusting. Epilogue takes place in 1907 and the agents capture Marston's family in 1911 so four years. I like both. They do a really really good job of making you feel like you are another character and not just a reskin though, i have to give them credit. I feel like they really fixed that issue from RDR 1 with the epilogue playing as Jack. Which he walked right into... Classic Marston. John Marston. If you play RDR2 you will notice John actually looks up to Arthur. Or they have a shootout in which case it depends on who's got the better cover and the cooler head. Rockstar. R1: The two spot each other at the same time on either ends of the main road in town (duel style). I would agree that he does have "street smarts" and he even gains some wisdom with age but I still think he's dumb overall. By using GTAForums.com, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. Arthur has beat all their asses. He just felt... western. He is a brute of a man with fighting skills to match. He is continuously ready to do whatever is necessary for a given circumstance to support the group. I stopped antagonizing people and maxed out honorable. When Arthur coughed I wanted to cough. Towards the end of Chapter 6 (of which there are only six story chapters in Red Dead Redemption 2), players are presented with a choice, each of which will lead Arthur Morgan down a different path and, thus, a different ending. He's a a really deep protagonist. We see in the end credits that Ross finds John only because John choose to hunt Micah down disregarding Abigails begging, the love we and John have for Arthur is ultimately what leads to his death. John has outsmarted numerous people in Red Dead 1 such as Captain De Santa. Incredible Protagonist.Â. حبينا الجزئين واتعلقنا بالشخصيتين! Eliminate the Van Der Linde gang. When you use dead eye, the sound effect is much different. I had such a strong connection to him and his story. In a way he has more layers to him.Â, I feel like John, and RDR1 in general, has the edge in terms of writing though. Though it would be extremely close.   The Cayo Perico Heist, coming December 15th. Film John Marston and Arthur Morgan need to be on point with their video game counterparts. However, their relationship strained when John ran away for little over a year after getting Abigail Roberts pregnant with his son, Jack. Even the Pinkertons tricked John into doing all their work and when he finished, they killed him. 1. Who is the Better "Red Dead Redemption" Protagonist? John Marston Vs. Arthur Morgan - Who Is The Better Hero? Younger John is dumb and brash. Viewing him as a surrogate father figure, Arthur came t… All Rights Reserved. Round 3: Considering we’ve established that Arthur is a superior fighter and a mildly better gunman, I think he wins this battle handily. Despite the legendary status of the former two, however, Arthur Morgan is actually the best gunslinger. By Liberty-TG, March 25, 2019 in … i would say Arthur. No throwables or explosives. No lasso. Rockstars not stupid they’ve prob tested the sh*t out of this game they know we’re gonna miss Arthur. I find it highly unlikely we don’t get a dlc with him . I love John, don't get me wrong, but his story arc didn't really have the same effect on me as Arthur. Absolutely. Arthur is much better than John in my opinion. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the whowouldwin community. Arthur is already there, given 24 hours to prepare. His mother died when he was very young, and his father was a petty criminal and outlaw, who was arrested for larceny in 1874 when Arthur was 11 years old. They didn't trick him. An outlaw, former gang member and gunslinger. Tweet. R2: John has hunted Arthur down and found him on a train heading west. The Outlaws / Cowboys from Rockstar's "Red Dead Redemption" gamesArthur MorganJohn MarstonExplorers / Adventurers from Naughty Dog's "Uncharted" games By Joshua Duckworth Dec 29, 2019. How much time does Marston have before he is tasked to go after the gang and face Bill Williamson?Â. Close. Share. Arthur is definitely a better written western character for sure. There’s a tiny difference I found between both characters. They each have 10 minutes to successfully rob a train heading from New Hanover to West Elizabeth. Red Dead Redemption 2 (stylized as Red Dead Redemption II) is a 2018 action-adventure game developed and published by Rockstar Games.The game is the third entry in the Red Dead series and is a prequel to the 2010 game Red Dead Redemption.The story is set in 1899 in a fictionalized representation of the Western, Midwestern, and Southern United States and follows outlaw Arthur Morgan, a … Again in Mexico he played both sides of a war and nearly died. Follow @RedDeadNet! Ross tricked him by making John believe him and his family would be safe when he captured Bill. Once a certain thing happens to him, the choices he makes and the way he thinks as a result makes him even more likeable IMO. Ross's mission was clear. but i think arthur is a little better. John shows some decent ability and skill but Arthur is much bigger, tougher, and arguably more skilled. ... Then he waits for the fight to cool off (maybe Wick dies in the gun fight) then poisons/accidents the other 3. ... a thug, the guy in any other game you’d kill in a brief boss fight before taking on the head honcho. More relatable and likeable. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Firstly, they both have their Dead Eye ability, a double-barreled shotgun, one revolver, and a repeater. i was upset that he died but i didint miss him nearly as much as i miss arthur. Even after Arthur sacrificed himself for him... Then he gets all the money from Black Water but continues to stay where he is a wanted criminal using his real name. Around 1878, Arthur was picked up and adopted by Dutch van der Lindeand Hosea Matthews, and viewed both of them as surrogate fat… Starting Distance: 50 Feet apart from each other. John could easily headshot Arthur or vice versa. The image of John Marston’s defenceless wife and child, tied up and legally snatched away, is … Look what happened when he went after Bill. He was meant to encompass Arthur Morgan after his death, which is why when I started playing as John in the epilogue, I wasn't upset. Here are 10 actors who could do the iconic duo justice. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. Anyone figured out a way to play as Arthur in New Austin? I don't see how he out smarted De Santa. Probably because the script is smaller, tighter and more focused. I liked both of them and I didn't expect Arthur to be this good but He was better than John for me. They are each alone, with weapons mentioned above. Click here to subscribe for all things RDR2: https://www.youtube.com/user/Tyrannicon?sub_confirmation=1Click here for the RDR2 … Battle. No BFR. John being one of the main members. They feel like night and day.Â. Because we already know John Marston very well, it's absolutely perfect we play as him in the epilogue. Rockstar should have let him retire in peace and omitted John or made him too small for a speaking role. Johns dead eye sound effect sounds exactly like from rdr1.Â, Compared to Arthur John is a dull unlikable punk He has a better sense of anthropology than MacDougal does. Endgame RDR 2 John feels like a rusty Rob Wiethoff out of practice as the mature version. You don't know much about Jack to really care about playing as him as much as John. Max Payne and Niko Bellic vs Arthur Morgan and John Marston. Arthur Morgan was born in 1863 to Beatrice and Lyle Morgan. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. There's still a few years before Ross tracks down Bill, Javier, and Dutch and sends John to finish what he started. No Gameplay Changes Between John & Arthur. He ran with Dutch van der Linde, Bill Williamson, Arthur Morganand Javier Escuella, committing robberies, raids, murders, kidnappings, and other crimes across the frontier. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. If it's a fist fight. He has much more experience in H2H combat and this shows not only in fight animations but in lore. John is still a legend though. 10 Arthur Morgan: Roger Clark. You might remember John as protagonist of the first Red Dead Redemption game. They wanted to elicit change in the people of the West, although this might just be his own justification f… Nowadays it's agreed that Arthur Morgan, protagonist to the much lauded Red Dead Redemption 2, is the franchise's best character. John young and old is dumb. John may prepare on his way to the location. Two of Rockstar’s Wild West best take each other on head-to-head in a feud for the century. but arthur though, he’s more funnier and his story is more easier to understand than john, Ok thanks. unlike when john died. John Marston comes back for Arthur to help him fight Micah Bell during the 'Red Dead Redemption' mission on PC. Knowledge: None for all. They forced him to do it and Edgar Ross was a con man for the ages. John used to be one of my favourites but in my opinion he was always dumb and never really deserves redemption.Â. No lasso. It’s really frustrating that there’s an entire section of the map Arthur can’t even go to. Where MacDougal doesn't get out of the city much. Arthur is not just the trigger-man, he is the muscle of the Van Der Linde gang. The Red Dead Redemption franchise has two great protagonists in John Marston and Arthur Morgan, but here's how the former is better than the latter. ", I love them both, but bonus points go to Arthur Morgan. I choice jack marston because his default outfit. Sign up for a new account in our community. So of course John would know more about the land and people he grew around. They fight begins instantly there with no restrictions besides those specified above. But anyway, in an all-out fist fight, who do you think would win between Niko Bellic from Grand Theft Auto IV, and Arthur Morgan from Red Dead Redemption II? He probes Abraham Reyes for his life goals because he knows he's gonna become a tyrant. Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! maybe plant some dynomyte outside or hire a bunch of mercinaries. and he was a great protagonist. Through letters, they’ve arranged to meet at a given location. قولنا مين فيهم الأقرب لقلبك؟ #GameValley #LetsPlay I'm actually both depressed and annoyed that I can no longer play his character and have to be John. It was hardly a con. About halfway my playstyle was changing with the story. There is no better place to start than at the beginning. With two games full of information let's look at 5 things wrong with John Marston's story and 5 reasons he's one of the best characters in the franchise. By John was basically one of the last living relics of his time and he was sent to hunt the other few remaining relics, "You don't send a saint to catch a sinner. John Marston Sr.is the main protagonist of Red Dead Redemption. i should tell john to store a gatling gun in his barn, pointed at the door before he goes and starts the events of rdr1. Arthur is the first character in a video game that made me feel like I walked in his shoes. Arthur witnessed his death when he was young as well, and despite not liking his father, or knowing his mother, he kept photos for them for either comfort or fondness for them. For many people, myself included, John Marston is Red Dead Redemption. But his voice, manner and moustache did it for me. Being too trusting is being dumb when you're an outlaw. The writing was sharper and more memorable, but again, nostalgia. Â. I have a feeling Arthur will be my favorite the more I play and replay RDR2. I like John too, but he's not smart. All Rights Reserved. I liked how you found out more about his past in the end. He understands how things will play out and the bigger picture better than his peers do.). As Arthur started to question his own morality I started helping people more. They share similar traits as well, but I feel as if John looked up to Arthur as the role model and that is why we end up liking John Marston as well.  Or just save a game file from each chapter to play certain points of the game. The entire foundation of … I robbed stages for cash and killed witnesses. During the epilogue John couldn't put his guns away for good, which kept putting his family at risk. He took years off in retirement and it shows in his performance. Arthur Morgan made John want to change who he was. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Yes, Arthur is instantly killed upon stepping into New Austin, regardless of wanted status you'll see a few shots being fired from an unknown location that miss and then one will hit you in the head and you will die, no matter how much health you have left. Followers 1. © GTANet.com 2001-2020. Not to mention John was still fairly young and in a time period where things were changing at a rapid pace, Arthur grew up in the last prime years of the wild west, hell John Marston rode in a godamn car, I specifically remember the post office attendant saying to Arthur at one point that if they ever made a horseless carriage his job would be done for, and they both have a laugh over how absurd that sounds. On my first playthrough I didn't expect him to return for blood either. RDR1 John and Arthur Morgan are tied IMO. Arthur says it best when he mentions that John is dumb but he's lucky and good at getting out of the bad situations he puts himself in. There are three gunslingers who best define the Red Dead franchise: Red Harlow, John Marston, and Arthur Morgan. If anyone still want to play as Arthur. Still prefer Arthur, but have to admit I really enjoy the epilogue, playing as John. Bonus round: Train robbery. I like playing as him in RDR1 a lot more than in RDR2, though. Arthur overcame the size and power of Tommy in the fight at the Valentine Saloon. © GTANet.com 2001-2020. At some point, Lyle was killed and Arthur witnessed it, donning his hat afterwards.Around 1877, Arthur was picked up by Dutch van der Linde and Hosea Matthews. Or KO if Death is not an option. Time and time again, members of Dutch’s gang will comment on how good of a shot Arthur is. MacDougal was pretty ignorant of the west. and has some amazing quotes. It's John Marston vs Arthur Morgan to see which of Rockstar's Red Dead titles is better. My memory is a little fuzzy with him but I do remember he was used by the Mexican army then they sent him into a trap. He refuses to be blindly used by West Dickens (as a dumb character would be) and calls him out constantly, only working with him begrudgingly. Just my opinion.Â. He was meant to encompass Arthur Morgan after his death, which is why when I started playing as John in the epilogue, I wasn't upset. His fate is definitely more heartfelt and emotional than John’s. They share similar traits as well, but I feel as if John looked up to Arthur as the role model and that is why we end up liking John Marston as well. Also worth pointing out that 47 has strength feats much higher than anyone else here. You are indeed where you belong. and his death was a lot more impactful on me. I feel like John was mean to take the place and Arthur passed the torch to him at the end.  In that final mission, without spoiling too much, players will be given the option to either help John Marston escape and return to his family or go after Dutch Van der Linde's money. It's easy! John Marston vs Arthur Morgan. The train is filled with armed guards, which the subject must fight through, get to the room where the money is held, and try to steal as much as they can before time runs out. There may be a cheat code. There’s a reason for that. I plan on making a full discussion video on which I think was the better protagonist, but I will paraphrase my thoughts here. Lyle was a criminal and outlaw, and was arrested for larceny in 1874, and Arthur described as a "no good bastard". Arthur was born in 1863 to Lyle and Beatrice Morgan, and she died when he was very young. Who is the better protagonist for "Red Dead Redemption"? He thought everyone was savages and was a major coke head. No throwables or explosives. I feel very sad for Arthur, and almost wish a DLC or fan-fiction could give him a happier ending. When I started the game I was leaning towards dishonorable. Location: Wonder Woman vs Ares Fight Location (Wonder Woman 2018 Movie). There’s a reason everybody confides in him and asks for his help. Usually in fist fights I can give the win to Niko such as against Michael or Trevor, but in this case it’s harder to decide. If you found yourself in a country at war and had to find two men in the entire region, what would you do?  Round 2: If this is any kind of Melee fight Arthur wins pretty easily. Firstly, they both have their Dead Eye ability, a double-barreled shotgun, one revolver, and a repeater. Arthur Morgan vs John Marston,who is a better protagonist? Several take place during RDR2, and while John take part in some of them, Arthur is integral to all of their success, and in fact John almost dies during one of them, while Arthur, even riddled with TB, never gets into any trouble during them. The fight takes place on the moving train. And the whole Mexico thing was a clusterf*ck. The sights are beautiful, yes, and the gunslinging frantic and appropriately bloody. Arthur Morgan (RDR2) vs. John Marston (RDR) Two of Rockstar’s Wild West best take each other on head-to-head in a feud for the century. i do like john. TheSantader25, Battle. he is so badass. November 4, 2018 in Red Dead Redemption 2. sooner or later so I figured it might as well be me. Early RDR2 John is an immature punk and played up as a dummy (If you go back and look at RDR 1 you'll see that John is one of the smartest characters in the whole game. 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